Jumping Around Podcasts

Presented by the Maryland Horse Industry Board and Brown Advisory.

Host Joe Clancy talks to guests about American steeplechasing – owners, trainers, jockeys, race-meet organizers and so on – in our periodic posts that are a bit different than the traditional writing medium you find on thisishorseracing.com. To listen to a podcast, use the link with each episode. You can also subscribe for free on iTunes and Podbeam.

Jumping Around Podcast: Jockey Michael Mitchell

He's off to a rocket start on the 2019 season with 15 wins through May while riding first call for leading trainer Jack Fisher. Englishman Michael Mitchell has ridden horses races all over the world, and the United States steeplechase circuit is his latest stop. 

Jumping Around Podcast: Md. Hunt Cup women jockeys

Kathy Kusner was the pioneer, but it took Toinette Neilson (then Jackson), Joy Slater and Liz McKnight to make women riding in America's oldest steeplechase commonplace, accepted and successful. All three sat down for a conversation about how it happened and what it was like.

Jumping Around Podcast: Hunt Cup history

It's the last week in April, which means time to talk Maryland Hunt Cup. Buzz Hannum and Paddy Neilson won the great race three times each and sat down to talk about it with us.


Jumping Around Podcast: Jonathan Sheppard, Part 2

More from Hall of Fame trainer Jonathan Sheppard, who discusses some highlights of his unparalleled career including steeplechase star Flatterer, future game-changing stallion Storm Cat and more. This is Part 2. If you haven't heard Part 1, check it out first.

Jumping Around Podcast: Jonathan Sheppard, Part 1

He's the dean of American steeplechase trainers, and fairly close to that status among all trainers – flat and jump. On an episode of our Jumping Around Podcast, Jonathan Sheppard talks about his career, some horses who helped make it and how he came to America (the first time was on a cargo ship). Part 1 of 2.

Jumping Around Podcast: Guy Torsilieri from Far Hills Races

Guy Torsilieri is the co-chair of the Far Hills Races, president of the National Steeplechase Association and the man behind the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree. If that's not enough to make you listen, you're in the wrong podcast. 

Jumping Around Podcast: Talking TV with Steve Hankin

A Marylander who now lives in California, Steve Hankin brings a background in sports video production to his new role with the National Steeplechase Association, where HD video is changing the way people see American jump racing and opening new opportunities.

Funding the future of U.S. jump racing

The good work of the like-minded National Steeplechase Foundation and Temple Gwathmey Fund gets a boost as the organizations merge to create the Temple Gwathmey Steeplechase Foundation. Board members Emily Day and Charlie Fenwick discuss the future. 

Trainer Neil Morris: 4 1/2 furlongs to 4 miles

As far as we know, he's the only trainer ON EARTH to win races at 4 1/2 furlongs (at Charles Town) and 4 miles (in the Virginia Gold Cup) this year. Based in Virginia, English native Neil Morris is off to a great start to 2018 with Thoroughbreds of all types. He took some time to talk about his horses, his training philosophies and how he got here.

Leading jockey Jack Doyle

He leads the 2018 National Steeplechase Associaton standings, less than two years after breaking his pelvis in a wicked fall at Belmont Park. The regular jockey of stakes horses Modem, Lyonnel and a few others for Elizabeth Voss and other trainers talks about his career and how he got here.

Temple Gwathmey: the man, the race and more

If you know the name Temple Gwathmey, chances are it's the steeplechase race that comes to mind. But long before the race, the man (James Temple Gwathmey) was a major owner, sportsman and businessman. When he died in 1924, his friends created a race and a memorial fund in his name. Both continue today. We talk to his great-grandsons Ned and Temple Grassi, plus get some insight into the National Steeplechase Foundation from Charlie Fenwick and check in with Doug Fout about the Middleburg Spring Races.

NSA director of racing Bill Gallo talks 2018 and more

Bill Gallo started working at the National Steeplechase Association in 1977 and has seen the sport go through a variety of cycles. He talks about the competitive race for the 2017 Eclipse Award between All The Way Jose, Mr. Hot Stuff and Scorpiancer, takes a look ahead at the 2018 season and even goes way back to his favorite jumper of all-time – a late-1970s underdog from the barn of Jonathan Sheppard. 

The horse-centered future of Fair Hill

Part of Thoroughbred racing in one way or another since the 1930s, Maryland's iconic Fair Hill property is home to plenty of horse activity – racing, training, eventing, showing, fox hunting, trail riding and everything else in between. New efforts are underway to substantially upgrade the outdoor event space at Fair Hill to host a four-star event, additional days of racing and more. Terry Hasseltine and Ross Peddicord, of the Maryland Sports Commission and Maryland Horse Industry Board respectively, stopped in to talk about some of the progress. 

Amateur jockey Hadden Frost's American adventure

Englishman Hadden Frost, 26, came to the United States this spring and rode several jump races. He picked up wins at My Lady's Manor and Willowdale and nearly won the Maryland Hunt Cup. Before all of that, he won "50-odd" races on the flat and another 70 or so over jumps while following his father Jimmy's footsteps to the winner's circle. In an early June conversation, he talked about his background, experience with pony racing, riding with Ryan Moore, getting quizzed by Martin Pipe and what it feels like to ride a winner at the Cheltenham Festival. 

Trainer Richard Valentine

You know him as the guy behind 2014 steeplechase champion Demonstrative and some other stars to come off Whitewood Farm in Virginia. He grew up in a family with little or no horse background, but dove in and now operates one of the country's most successful stables. We caught up to him by telephone last week to talk about how he became a trainer and more. 

Jockey Sean McDermott

An experienced jockey in his native Ireland, Sean McDermott is in his third full American season and got off to a big start to 2017 with two major stakes wins aboad Scorpiancer. And to think he started out riding a donkey and eventually a horse named Flamenco Fury. We talk to him about horses, Ireland, America and what it's like to "get it right" in a race.

Champion owner Irv Naylor

He's won six of the last seven National Steeplechase Association owners' championships, just missed passing $1 million in seasonal earnings in 2016, campaigned the last two steeplechase champions in Dawalan and Rawnaq, and started 2016 by retiring the Virginia Gold Cup trophy with Ebanour. Irv Naylor discussed his origins in the sport and more in early May at WYPR in Baltimore.

Irish jockey Ruby Walsh

This was all supposed to be newsworthy, timely and dramatic, but – as anyone in racing knows – it doesn't always work that way. We talked to Ruby Walsh last week about Nichols Canyon and his chances at the historic TVV Capital Challenge of sweeping Cheltenham's Stayers Hurdle and America's Iroquois Steeplechase. Walsh was ready, the horse was ready, trainer Willie Mullins was ready. Then Nichols Canyon was injured in transit. He left Ireland, made it as far as Paris, but won't make the trip. Walsh's interview sheds some light on the Irish thinking, however, and was too good not to share.

The Senior Senator Story

Joe Davies has trained plenty of horses. Senior Senator is nothing like the others. A flop (and something of a rogue) on the flat at Penn National for Flint Stites, the now 7-year-old has bloomed into a star over timber. He's crossed the finish line first or second in every timber race he's started with the two biggest achievements being the 2016 Maryland Hunt and the 2017 Grand National. He defends his crown in the Maryland Hunt Cup. Skip and Vicki Crawford's horse has won races, changed lives, proved people wrong, been on 60 Minutes – oh, and learned how to jump in and out of his own turnout paddock.

Trainer Jack Fisher and Good Night Shirt

Jack Fisher got his Horse of a Lifetime when Good Night Shirt showed up in 2005. The big, raw Maryland-bred’s meteoric career wound up one of the best ever with eight Grade 1 wins and more than $1 million in earnings, joining McDynamo and Lonesome Glory in the seven-figure club. In August, Good Night Shirt will join the greats in the Thoroughbred racing's Hall of Fame.